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I am curious as to: do we really stay on the Earths surface due to gravity or is something else? Air has weight, we know this as when it gets really windy it can push us about, that is the weight of the air moving doing that right? In thermal conditions air can push a plane, glider or hang glider etc up.
Sooooo, is it possible that what keeps us on the Earth is actually just the weight of the air and that gravity would be better described as something that somehow pulls planets and items in a void toward a larger item?
But gravity is what keeps the air around the Earth from spinning away........or is it...........perhaps it is the temperature of the void or the void itself that stops the air from moving away from the Earth.........
These are musings, I would be best served perhaps to go check on google about the whole Gravity thing or maybe the Skydivers are right and gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks?
 

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I am curious as to: do we really stay on the Earths surface due to gravity or is something else? Air has weight, we know this as when it gets really windy it can push us about, that is the weight of the air moving doing that right? In thermal conditions air can push a plane, glider or hang glider etc up.
Sooooo, is it possible that what keeps us on the Earth is actually just the weight of the air and that gravity would be better described as something that somehow pulls planets and items in a void toward a larger item?
But gravity is what keeps the air around the Earth from spinning away........or is it...........perhaps it is the temperature of the void or the void itself that stops the air from moving away from the Earth.........
These are musings, I would be best served perhaps to go check on google about the whole Gravity thing or maybe the Skydivers are right and gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks?
Hey, this might be of interest;
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Hey, this might be of interest;
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I think I need to go back to far more basic material before I try to tackle that one! I have literally done no research into the field and that is way too high a gradient for me! Thanks for the link though, I will go back to the start of his series on this and look although I think that may still be too advanced!
 
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I think I need to go back to far more basic material before I try to tackle that one! I have literally done no research into the field and that is way too high a gradient for me! Thanks for the link though, I will go back to the start of his series on this and look although I think that may still be too advanced!
Hey no worries mate.

Unless i'm mistaken(which i defs could be), i think he's essentially describing "gravity" as actually resulting from the energy/forces generated by the total atomic composition of independent material objects and the interactions of these with other independent objects.

His theory seems to be related to electromagnetism, atomic/subatomic density, and 'Thermodynamic' "Entropy".(rate of heat loss/expansion)

Think of any common object you like, perhaps it's the computer or phone you're using right now.

It will no doubt appear as a solid/static object from our scale, it will appear as if unmoving—(😂unless some previously unknown tripped out anomaly is going on. Am joking)

Anyways, imagine this same object from a perspective at the atomic scale.

According to the mainstream sciences, shit gets real freaky at this scale.
In what we normally perceive as being solid material objects, at the atomic scale, apparently these same material objects are actually mostly empty space with the energetic forces of atomic bonds generating the necessary workload to enable "Dissipative Adaption"(basically the counteractive force to that of "Entropy")

*["Entropy"= matter naturally expends energy("heat") and the rate of this process equates to the potential rapidity the atomic composition of material seeks to expand. (😄Eg; shit wants to fly off in every possible direction-at all times.(ie; everything wants to explode.)]

*["Dissipative Adaption"= the interaction of external forces("workloads") upon material objects which essentially inhibits/restricts the rate of "Entropy" and what keeps things together.(🤔ya know, in a sense,...that sorta seems like an adequate description of "Gravity")]


*(If i recall correctly, Miles Mathis rejects the mainstream theories of 'Quantum Mechanics' as being deliberate hoaxes to mislead the masses, so i doubt he's included 'Quantum Thermodynamic Entropy' in his equations.)

*[oh, and fyi; i can't honestly-nor logically suggest as if i would know whether or not 'Quantum Mechanics'(or any of this) is legitimately accurate or otherwise, . . . so personally i currently neither reject nor accept any of these theories and until proven one way or another, i prefer continuing to maintain open-mindedness.]

Add: i ought to mention that there is a lot of controversy surrounding this Miles Mathis character and it'd be negligent of me if i failed to advise/recommend applying one's own independent discernment & to scrutinize(*as we all should) the absolute shite outta everything.
[*Ohhh,...and he's got a bit of a, . . . (🤔how should i put this). . . he's not very fond of those claiming to be the so-called "jews", yet in my opinion this shouldn't at all be automatically equated as invalidating nor disregarding his material.]

From what i've read, i reckon Miles Mathis has indeed written a great deal of insightful & fascinatingly uncommon material on a huge range of vastly different subjects.

Definitely worth taking a peek at his two websites-as well as his art too.(*one website is specific to challenging mainstream academia's established scientific materials, while the other is dedicated to practically everything else.)

*Edit: Added the gif, 😂but i dunno if it'll make sense.
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Hey no worries mate.

Unless i'm mistaken(which i defs could be), i think he's essentially describing "gravity" as actually resulting from the energy/forces generated by the total atomic composition of independent material objects and the interactions of these with other independent objects.

His theory seems to be related to electromagnetism, atomic/subatomic density, and 'Thermodynamic' "Entropy".(rate of heat loss/expansion)

Think of any common object you like, perhaps it's the computer or phone you're using right now.

It will no doubt appear as a solid/static object from our scale, it will appear as if unmoving—(😂unless some previously unknown tripped out anomaly is going on. Am joking)

Anyways, imagine this same object from a perspective at the atomic scale.

According to the mainstream sciences, shit gets real freaky at this scale.
In what we normally perceive as being solid material objects, at the atomic scale, apparently these same material objects are actually mostly empty space with the energetic forces of atomic bonds generating the necessary workload to enable "Dissipative Adaption"(basically the counteractive force to that of "Entropy")

*["Entropy"= matter naturally expends energy("heat") and the rate of this process equates to the potential rapidity the atomic composition of material seeks to expand. (😄Eg; shit wants to fly off in every possible direction-at all times.(ie; everything wants to explode.)]

*["Dissipative Adaption"= the interaction of external forces("workloads") upon material objects which essentially inhibits/restricts the rate of "Entropy" and what keeps things together.(🤔ya know, in a sense,...that sorta seems like an adequate description of "Gravity")]


*(If i recall correctly, Miles Mathis rejects the mainstream theories of 'Quantum Mechanics' as being deliberate hoaxes to mislead the masses, so i doubt he's included 'Quantum Thermodynamic Entropy' in his equations.)

*[oh, and fyi; i can't honestly-nor logically suggest as if i would know whether or not 'Quantum Mechanics'(or any of this) is legitimately accurate or otherwise, . . . so personally i currently neither reject nor accept any of these theories and until proven one way or another, i prefer continuing to maintain open-mindedness.]

Add: i ought to mention that there is a lot of controversy surrounding this Miles Mathis character and it'd be negligent of me if i failed to advise/recommend applying one's own independent discernment & to scrutinize(*as we all should) the absolute shite outta everything.
[*Ohhh,...and he's got a bit of a, . . . (🤔how should i put this). . . he's not very fond of those claiming to be the so-called "jews", yet in my opinion this shouldn't at all be automatically equated as invalidating nor disregarding his material.]

From what i've read, i reckon Miles Mathis has indeed written a great deal of insightful & fascinatingly uncommon material on a huge range of vastly different subjects.

Definitely worth taking a peek at his two websites-as well as his art too.(*one website is specific to challenging mainstream academia's established scientific materials, while the other is dedicated to practically everything else.)

*Edit: Added the gif, 😂but i dunno if it'll make sense.View attachment 604
That's a great gif!
I tend to look for the most simple explanation to something and go from there but I have not really investigated gravity before and to me the most simple explanation for being held to the planet is as I mentioned above. Now that I have thought of that explanation it has opened doors to further questions which may or may not disprove my explanation, things that I have not even contemplated due to my relative newness to the subject.
My complete ignorance of most if not all existing theories is huge so I'm keen to explore and to hear why my explanation may not/is not right!
 
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I am curious as to: do we really stay on the Earths surface due to gravity or is something else? Air has weight, we know this as when it gets really windy it can push us about, that is the weight of the air moving doing that right? In thermal conditions air can push a plane, glider or hang glider etc up.
Sooooo, is it possible that what keeps us on the Earth is actually just the weight of the air and that gravity would be better described as something that somehow pulls planets and items in a void toward a larger item?
But gravity is what keeps the air around the Earth from spinning away........or is it...........perhaps it is the temperature of the void or the void itself that stops the air from moving away from the Earth.........
These are musings, I would be best served perhaps to go check on google about the whole Gravity thing or maybe the Skydivers are right and gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks?
Did you know that a fraction of humanity is held captive through the mind?
And I don't mean like anything that these men from earth are already mentally enslaved by either.
In the vig veda's it talks about men born so far advanced than most men of earth that if those who were light-years ahead of the rest of their fellow man, hadn't escaped the earth, were hunted and killed.
They always want us to believe that every single giant, alien or advanced human was evil, however those who are actually born above earth men, are so far past the rest that it's no wonder they have to demonize and castrate their stories so much.
Anyhow in not only the vig veda's, but every other ancient story about mankind, there was always one man that stood out way farther than the rest and some of those men were not bound by this thing called gravity.
But that gravity was a mental chain that wouldn't allow men to leave the realms of earth.
Is there a limit on how many men from earth escape? I mean I would hope so if this is what mankind was made for and is made of as of 2023, if we can even trust the date that they tell us that it is.
Have to unload the trucks now be back later to elaborate more. If that's ok
 

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Did you know that a fraction of humanity is held captive through the mind?
And I don't mean like anything that these men from earth are already mentally enslaved by either.
In the vig veda's it talks about men born so far advanced than most men of earth that if those who were light-years ahead of the rest of their fellow man, hadn't escaped the earth, were hunted and killed.
They always want us to believe that every single giant, alien or advanced human was evil, however those who are actually born above earth men, are so far past the rest that it's no wonder they have to demonize and castrate their stories so much.
Anyhow in not only the vig veda's, but every other ancient story about mankind, there was always one man that stood out way farther than the rest and some of those men were not bound by this thing called gravity.
But that gravity was a mental chain that wouldn't allow men to leave the realms of earth.
Is there a limit on how many men from earth escape? I mean I would hope so if this is what mankind was made for and is made of as of 2023, if we can even trust the date that they tell us that it is.
Have to unload the trucks now be back later to elaborate more. If that's ok
Some beings still have the ability to operate completely free of their bodies and perhaps some can do this completely at will. For them to leave the gravitational pull of Earth would be as simple as deciding to. They would also be so far advanced from other beings who do not even know they are a being separate from their minds and bodies that they would appear insane were they to talk of it! As then identified nutjobs they would certainly be hounded and persecuted!
As to how many there are like this, we would never know because they would wisely not advertise the fact! Imagine how much of a threat they would appear to insane governmental types who want to control everyone!! My god, they would send them into a frenzy of fear and loathing and desire to destroy!!
 

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Some beings still have the ability to operate completely free of their bodies and perhaps some can do this completely at will. For them to leave the gravitational pull of Earth would be as simple as deciding to. They would also be so far advanced from other beings who do not even know they are a being separate from their minds and bodies that they would appear insane were they to talk of it! As then identified nutjobs they would certainly be hounded and persecuted!
As to how many there are like this, we would never know because they would wisely not advertise the fact! Imagine how much of a threat they would appear to insane governmental types who want to control everyone!! My god, they would send them into a frenzy of fear and loathing and desire to destroy!!
When I use the I'll allow it, it's sort of like, I agree. It's a good antonym.
Apparently there's flying children in Russia 😂
Who would advertise anything after Jesus' warpt earthly adventure 😂
Except no recs.
Very true, as in my case the feds made sure to lock many higher power aspects of myself at 5 years old with ECT, electric shock therapy. 25 sessions by the time I was 7.
Now as a so called adult, I'm not allowed training, financial or societal gain.
Just knowing what I know has backed me into this corner.
 

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Did you know that a fraction of humanity is held captive through the mind?
And I don't mean like anything that these men from earth are already mentally enslaved by either.
In the vig veda's it talks about men born so far advanced than most men of earth that if those who were light-years ahead of the rest of their fellow man, hadn't escaped the earth, were hunted and killed.
They always want us to believe that every single giant, alien or advanced human was evil, however those who are actually born above earth men, are so far past the rest that it's no wonder they have to demonize and castrate their stories so much.
Anyhow in not only the vig veda's, but every other ancient story about mankind, there was always one man that stood out way farther than the rest and some of those men were not bound by this thing called gravity.
But that gravity was a mental chain that wouldn't allow men to leave the realms of earth.
Is there a limit on how many men from earth escape? I mean I would hope so if this is what mankind was made for and is made of as of 2023, if we can even trust the date that they tell us that it is.
Have to unload the trucks now be back later to elaborate more. If that's ok
Gravity was something else before all the previous resets.
It was a cap to even more ancient history of mankind and humanity.
Picture this, planets, as they are, fallen angels trapped within the frozen edges of the threshold of the firmament and dome.
However as we know, life is this multi leveled and facited existence, where we humans are but a fraction.
And those who can't comprehend that are galvanized by gravity.

As in at will?
I spent every day after lock up in 2000 trying and daring the astral realms, and in 2016 I received the universal cosmic ap king award and was thus banned from the ap realm.
I had figured out so much outside of this reality that if only I could escape.
But how when the controllers of this matrix have more than just my two hands tied.
 
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Gravity was something else before all the previous resets.
It was a cap to even more ancient history of mankind and humanity.
Picture this, planets, as they are, fallen angels trapped within the frozen edges of the threshold of the firmament and dome.
However as we know, life is this multi leveled and facited existence, where we humans are but a fraction.
And those who can't comprehend that are galvanized by gravity.

As in at will?
I spent every day after lock up in 2000 trying and daring the astral realms, and in 2016 I received the universal credit cosmic ap king award and was this banned from the ap realm.
I had figured out so much outside of this reality that if only I could escape.
But how when the controllers of this matrix have more than just my two hands tied.
And this is just the surface of, no recs vs all mankind.
I even felt that I lived in the future as a child, that I knew what societal life around the world would be like and that even before becoming an adult, that I didn't want to be any parts like men from earth.
And so much so that if I do anything more than just look like I fit in, all the hiding out will fall apart.
Which is what happened so long ago, since psychics haven't been able to place me except before the flood.
And so if I haven't ever been here,if not for a very long time, and still claim to not be from here, where would that leave a man, except for hiding out and just waiting for shit to hit the fan, especially if I'm supposed to loose everything all over again just to reach my spaceship, that the feds stole?
Wouldn't you be everlastingly Gun'n like no other, if you couldn't ever place yourself in a mortal man's shoes.
 

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And this is just the surface of, no recs vs all mankind.
I even felt that I lived in the future as a child, that I knew what societal life around the world would be like and that even before becoming an adult, that I didn't want to be any parts like men from earth.
And so much so that if I do anything more than just look like I fit in, all the hiding out will fall apart.
Which is what happened so long ago, since psychics haven't been able to place me except before the flood.
And so if I haven't ever been here,if not for a very long time, and still claim to not be from here, where would that leave a man, except for hiding out and just waiting for shit to hit the fan, especially if I'm supposed to loose everything all over again just to reach my spaceship, that the feds stole?
Wouldn't you be everlastingly Gun'n like no other, if you couldn't ever place yourself in a mortal man's shoes.
Which is what drives me to keep going until shtf or my music pops and I can finally stock up how I have to as a solo revolutionist.
Limited amo, six shooters, one clip pistol and a short stock 200 yrd'r.
I'm trapped no matter what I do and no matter how anyone can analyze it.
 
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Which is what drives me to keep going until shtf or my music pops and I can finally stock up how I have to as a solo revolutionist.
Limited amo, six shooters, one clip pistol and a short stock 200 yrd'r.
I'm trapped no matter what I do and no matter how anyone can analyze it.
I wrote this awhile ago, for all of us.....

I know not your place in this world
for that is for you to decide
you make it by what you confront
and from that which you chose to hide

I am here in this place at this time
our paths have crossed and here we are
but it's not my place to fortify yours
for that would get neither of us far

Don't confuse your place for you
it is somewhere you have ended up
if you don't like the wine you drink
then you could choose not to sup

I greet you as equal at the least
I grant you nothing but that which you already are
an infinite being of infinite ability
far brighter than the brightest biggest star
 
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I was thinking about my obviously child like idea about gravity and it being the weight of the air. How would or could that possibly work when you are inside? It couldn't as if you were in a room with a 2.5 meter ceiling then the weight of the air on your head would be very minimal meaning you should be able to just about float compared to how the weight of the air outside would hold you down.

Damn, I was right then, gravity is a myth, the earth sucks.
 

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Oh I know, I know!!!!
Because it's a vacuum 😂
There science explained 😂
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Always found it comical that apparently we exist on a clump of matter drifting through the supposedly empty vacuum of "space" at ridiculous relative velocities,...and yet this clump of matter is somehow able to retain what would essentially be a thin bubble of gaseous atmospheric matter around it's surface.

😄i could obviously be mistaken, but it just doesn't seem to make any logical sense based upon the various possible perspectives, even the accepted theoretical "scientific" explanations of existence have gaping holes.
Not to mention the explanations for these gaping holes are (imo) themselves equally ridiculous.

A rocket simply would not be capable of propelling itself in a vacuum, because; (a) 😄tf is it ignited propellant pushing against?, and; (b) it's a frickin vacuum for christ sakes, coz the contents of the rocket propulsion system would immediately—& explosively be evacuated from the rocket the instant the propulsion system began to engage. Eg; in order to ignite the propellant(even in a controlled manner) it would need to be exposed to the vaccuum—thusly it would explosively vacate the containment unit-(¿possibly destructively so?)

From my limited comprehension and experience,...it seems entirely ridiculous to actually believe gravity is capable of negating absolute vacuum and the retainment of a relatively thin bubble of gaseous matter as our atmosphere.

It's physically impossible, is it not?

i'm starting to wonder if the "dome" theories are more accurate than the mainstream narrative in this regard, particularly also because there's even various official documentation describing a "dome", how to account for navigation over a "flat" surface(regarding both aerospace & naval navigation), countless official documents describing numerous scientific investigations into something that's referred to as a "wall" of solid O² which supposedly seems to rapidly self repair everytime attempts were made to drill through this "wall", and much more too.

The most plausible explanation of what "gravity" is supposed to be,...are the various theories describing "gravity" as actually being the result not of mass generating a pull,...but simply the relative density of the many forms in which matter exists.(*although this would inherently assume a self contained environment as opposed to a ball in a vacuum.)
 

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Always found it comical that apparently we exist on a clump of matter drifting through the supposedly empty vacuum of "space" at ridiculous relative velocities,...and yet this clump of matter is somehow able to retain what would essentially be a thin bubble of gaseous atmospheric matter around it's surface.

😄i could obviously be mistaken, but it just doesn't seem to make any logical sense based upon the various possible perspectives, even the accepted theoretical "scientific" explanations of existence have gaping holes.
Not to mention the explanations for these gaping holes are (imo) themselves equally ridiculous.

A rocket simply would not be capable of propelling itself in a vacuum, because; (a) 😄tf is it ignited propellant pushing against?, and; (b) it's a frickin vacuum for christ sakes, coz the contents of the rocket propulsion system would immediately—& explosively be evacuated from the rocket the instant the propulsion system began to engage. Eg; in order to ignite the propellant(even in a controlled manner) it would need to be exposed to the vaccuum—thusly it would explosively vacate the containment unit-(¿possibly destructively so?)

From my limited comprehension and experience,...it seems entirely ridiculous to actually believe gravity is capable of negating absolute vacuum and the retainment of a relatively thin bubble of gaseous matter as our atmosphere.

It's physically impossible, is it not?

i'm starting to wonder if the "dome" theories are more accurate than the mainstream narrative in this regard, particularly also because there's even various official documentation describing a "dome", how to account for navigation over a "flat" surface(regarding both aerospace & naval navigation), countless official documents describing numerous scientific investigations into something that's referred to as a "wall" of solid O² which supposedly seems to rapidly self repair everytime attempts were made to drill through this "wall", and much more too.

The most plausible explanation of what "gravity" is supposed to be,...are the various theories describing "gravity" as actually being the result not of mass generating a pull,...but simply the relative density of the many forms in which matter exists.(*although this would inherently assume a self contained environment as opposed to a ball in a vacuum.)
That thin veil you speak of is actually god's eye ball floating or rocketing thru space, that's how it all stays contained 😂